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#21 Howie Feltersnatch

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 12:13 PM

Fuck optics. Lasers are the future. Fucking lasers.

 

 

I was a match when a guy was only using a laser... he was slower the a revo guy.  


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Posted 21 May 2014 - 12:15 PM

I probably will do that if my vision continues to deteriorate and I stick with shooting.  I'm not sure about all this classification anyways.  Last match I would have finished much higher if I had shot Limited instead of Production.

 

 

Unless there was a weakass limited division, this doesn't mesh.

 

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 12:43 PM

 

 

Post the results. 

 

No.

 

 I should have mentioned it was a Steel Challenge match.  A lot of guys shooting limited are even older and more broke down than I am and are shooting 1911s that won't run.  The production guys are mostly shooting Glocks.



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Posted 21 May 2014 - 01:11 PM

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 04:59 PM

I like that half the resistance  to production optics are old dudes who got hooked shooting in production before they realized their vision went to shit and bought an open gun thinking that it would fix everything with their shooting.

 

Their battle cry is "FUCK THAT, I had to justify spending a shitload of money on new gear to my wife. I'm not letting you skate by, slapping a $300 optic on Glock and starting a new division, Fuck You. Call Edward Jones and make an "adjustment" to your IRA like the rest of us."


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Posted 21 May 2014 - 06:03 PM

Optics are just a crutch.  Production night sights.


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Posted 21 May 2014 - 06:51 PM

I started a thread like this a couple years ago on Benos.  http://www.brianenos...43#entry1828012  Feel free to troll the shit out of it.  There have been a few more threads like this popping up here and there.  I like it.  



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Posted 26 May 2014 - 11:26 AM

All the crap of unicorn gamer PD guns plus added factory-unobtanium dots.  What's not to love?

 

Get a box.  Put your gun in the box.  If it fits, it ships.  That rocks.


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Posted 26 May 2014 - 11:57 AM


Get a box. Put your gun in the box. If it fits, it ships. That rocks.


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Posted 27 May 2014 - 11:07 AM

 

Get a box.  Put your gun in the box.

 

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 06:38 PM

I thought there was a real chance IDPA would have added a slide mounted optics division with the last rule book rewrite.

 

1) Secure/enrich sponsor contracts with Trijicon and whoever else makes these things, and every gun company that makes a timmy pistol with slides pre-drilled

2) Open an all new market that currently has nowhere to compete

 

Anecdotaly, the demand seems to be there.

 

But then the rule book came out and I remembered IDPA is brought to you by the folks who brought you IDPA.

 

There's always hope for the rewrite after nationals...then it's locked in for 2 years.


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Posted 14 July 2014 - 05:53 PM

There certainly is a place to shoot the production optic, the uninitiated say with a whine, "we already have open!" Whine whine whine, fecksakes asswipes, we expanded the smallest fucking division and gained what? Not a thing.

Going on ten years in the sport and achieving almost all my goals, I will probably shoot this in OPEN division at some point. I know I could talk some of my friends into the adventure.

But, that is not the same, not even close, to getting the owners who already have these types of guns in the safe and the CC crowd to come out and play.

Kinda hard to sell the endeavor to these shooters by saying, "yeah, not really a division for you per se, but we will just stick you in with the OPEN shooters, come on out!"

IMHO that's just not going to be that productive. Under those conditions I don't see a bunch of growth.

Hence my "If you build it, they will come" approach.

Also, I just don't see it being that difficult to set up. A lot of "what if's" blah, blah, blah. Get bantered around and tend to bog the issue down for no reason.

It's Production, it's production rules, it's a slide mounted optic, if something like weight or box seems hard, strike it from this divisions rules. It doesn't have to be hard, in fact, keep it simple.

The gun is on the production list, it has a slide mounted optic, your holster and belt and pouches are the same as for production. Very simple. Why try to bog it down with boxes and weights of guns? That's just ridiculous stuff bogging it down for no reason.

It's fairly easy to implement, if you use common sense.
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Posted 14 July 2014 - 05:56 PM

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 05:59 PM

Barry, your brevity is an asset. I love you man, in a good way.
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#35 Howie Feltersnatch

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 06:44 PM

So... They have a division that suits your desire, and you reject it and you want to substitute your version of the rules to make a new division. Ignoring the fact that everything you seek is already allowed in the open division.

Got it. You know IDPA has a just for fun division at locals. You might want to try that. Hell you might even win.

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 06:53 PM

So... They have a division that suits your desire, and you reject it and you want to substitute your version of the rules to make a new division. Ignoring the fact that everything you seek is already allowed in the open division.
Got it. You know IDPA has a just for fun division at locals. You might want to try that. Hell you might even win.

You are kinda challenged huh?

I'm talking about growing the sport, nothing else.

I want USPSA to remain the cutting edge of shooting sports. This is going to happen, regardless of the negativity and hate, which I find simply amusing and disconnected.


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I don't believe you have ever felt anything other than shame when you stare at yourself in a mirror.

Furthermore, these aren't my words, but they are perfect for some of you that seem to be uninitiated, stunted, or otherwise incapable of reading and comprehending.

Production optics and open are not the same thing ...

Major vs minor ... This is huge
10 rds vice whatever fits in the mag
Comp vs no comp
Porting vs no porting
Race holster vs no race holster
Do anything you want to the gun vs not
Etc

So for you tards that continue on about "we have that already" get a clue.
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Posted 14 July 2014 - 08:18 PM

Ummm... I think the BOD has bigger fish to fry

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 08:48 PM

Ummm... I think the BOD has bigger fish to fry

like itself?  Is this some sort of philosophical paradox?



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Posted 14 July 2014 - 09:11 PM

Open Revolver Minor would be more popular.

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 09:12 PM

Uzi division.


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