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#21 LeadChucker

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 08:53 AM

It seems like a low-risk thing that's worth trying out.

Problem is that CZC doesn't list a 7.5mm tall, 0.100" wide front sight that takes a 1.0mm fiber insert…

Try ShootersConnection or Dawson

Normally ShootersConnection carries Dawson

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 09:05 AM

I've transitioned to narrow as I've gotten (slightly) gooder at shooting, and it does help for precision. Takes some work though, because you can lose tiny sights easier when you're flailing around.

 

With elevation adjustable sights, I really like a 6 o'clock hold PoA for USPSA type shooting. Just covering the general area where I want the bullets to land with the front sight blob resulted in way too many hard cover mikes and no shoots on partial targets, and I was spending too much time dicking with getting sights aligned horizontally. Knowing the hole is going to appear an inch or two above the front sight at ~20 yards if I do my part trigger-wise makes my brain happy. If I'm sloppy with the trigger I can usually see where I'm missing on long steel too, since the splash is somewhere above the rear/front sight plane.

 

Any of you fuckers have useful opinions on this? 

 

 

it definitely helps for long/tight shots. I'm running a 3mm on my match gun and a 2.5mm on my backup. I'll probably go to 2.5 on both after nats.

 

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 09:06 AM

Wow, I didn't know you had such a wide sight, Stubb. You're even more gooderer than I thought making it through life with that handicap.

I can't stand those wide-ass sights and notches that seem standard on guns nowadays, especially plastic guns.

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 09:21 AM

I use Sevigey 115 front and 150 rear. 

 

I think generally thin is good, with a decent gap..but it's pretty subjective.

 

I'll proly go .105 / .135 from Dawson's on my next gun.


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Posted 16 September 2014 - 09:27 AM

Your front sight needs to be narrower than the apparent width of the A zone, popper or plate at the longest distance you would expect to come across. You could just reduce that thinking to the size of the head on a metric target or a 6" square plate, since those are the smallest aiming points we have. What you don't want is a sight that completely covers your distant target.

Your arm length figures in as well. Shorter arms will need an even narrower sight.

The rear notch should be about 3x the width of the front sight. Then it is easy to make your sight picture even thirds of space-sight-space. The space on either side also helps track targets better.

No one can tell you what the actual measurement of your sights should be - you have to determine that yourself. You can use stacked feeler gauges held at length vertically against a distant square plate or metric head to get in the ballpark.
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Posted 16 September 2014 - 10:06 AM

So Doc, basically;.... bla, bla,...math, do what works best for you...?


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Posted 16 September 2014 - 10:10 AM

So Doc, basically;.... bla, bla,...math, do what works best for you...?


THAT'S what you take away from my post above??

moron.

Feeler gauges < 6" square at distance.

Except for you. Sell all your guns. You are too vapid to own them. That is what is best for the rest of the population.
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Posted 16 September 2014 - 10:21 AM

I like a skinny front and a wide notch rear. The rear notch is the width of the C zone and the front is slightly smaller than the A zone at 25 yards.

I used to like a .100 front and .130 rear on my Glock. I shot it the other day for Lulz and thought the sight picture sucked. If I planned on shooting it for something besides burning up ammo that fails the case guage I would put a .150 rear back on it.

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 10:22 AM

How about some video of this feeler gauge operation.  Sounds like a cluster fuck to me.

 

.125 rear, .100 front = Good to Go.



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Posted 16 September 2014 - 10:32 AM

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 10:37 AM

How about some video of this feeler gauge operation.  Sounds like a cluster fuck to me.
 
.125 rear, .100 front = Good to Go.


If you can't visualize holding a feeler gauge at arm's length, no video could possibly help you.
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Posted 16 September 2014 - 10:39 AM

Do you tape them to a stick or something cause my front sight is further out?  If you are going to measure this shit out to the thousandths it just seems short sighted to skip that step.  Maybe you could rig something else up to pretend to be the rear sight...



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Posted 16 September 2014 - 10:50 AM

Nice troll.

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 11:42 AM

I like narrow front sights .100-.110 with a wide enough rear to provide a good amount of light on each side. I think that's important, you need plenty of light around the front sight.  One downside is if your vision is in decline, especially if your speed changing focus is slowing, a narrow front sight can get lost easily and I like to have at least a ghost version of a front sight.  It just takes some experimentation as everyone has said. One thing I learned for myself anyway, a narrow FO front works great except on steel, I tend to not be as careful as the shot requires for some reason. Maybe it's an illusion that you have a good sight picture when you don't.


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Posted 16 September 2014 - 11:55 AM

How about some video of this feeler gauge operation.  Sounds like a cluster fuck to me.

 

.125 rear, .100 front = Good to Go.

 

This video should help.

 


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Posted 16 September 2014 - 11:56 AM

I  use Hennings sights on my tanfos. Front sight is 0.095" x 0.140" and the rear sight is matched to that. Dawson had the most complicated and confusing explanation on how to pick sights. The Dawson front sight I had flew off my gun in the middle of a match. 


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Posted 16 September 2014 - 12:01 PM

That's a fucked up way to tie shoes; if you go the other way the laces will lay straight across.  Keep working on it; I'm sure you will get it.



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Posted 16 September 2014 - 12:04 PM

Didn't want to start you in the deep end :)



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Posted 16 September 2014 - 12:08 PM

I like an 8 MOA dot.



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Posted 16 September 2014 - 12:15 PM

I  use Hennings sights on my tanfos. Front sight is 0.095" x 0.140" and the rear sight is matched to that. Dawson had the most complicated and confusing explanation on how to pick sights. The Dawson front sight I had flew off my gun in the middle of a match. 

 

Dawson sights require fitting, so I'm guessing you cocked up your part of the transaction?






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