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[ZachJ]

http://czcustom.com/...ter-Spacer.aspx

 

Thinking of getting this and getting rid of the FP block.

 

Thoughts? Yea or Nay? I'm an idiot? Advantages/Drawbacks?

 

If I do this do I still use a standard B model extended firing pin? Or do I get the Shadow/no FP block extended firing pin?

 

Also, there's a lot more to guns than I thought there was.

[not that bryan]

You can't remove the firing pin block in production. You would still need the standard b model extended firing pin, they are retained differently.

[ZachJ]

Aw doodie, okay. Thanks.. bryan?

 

Please delete thread.

[Vagetarian]

Please delete thread.

I don't think its been shit on enough yet to delete. Wait, delete??? Hahahahahahahahahahah.

[ZachJ]

 Figured it needed to get shit on a bit.

[skittles]

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[ZachJ]

Its ok. I was only wondering about the spacer because I wouldn't want to have to order from across the border for a $3 part.

 

Also, your production and my production have some differences. For example any of the CZ Custom Shadows besides SP-01 Shadow, SP-01 Shadow Canadian Edition, etc. aren't legal. So I'm going to be carefully asking the IPSC HQ up here for a ruling on certain parts when I get a Shadow and tune it up.

[LeadChucker]

Its ok. I was only wondering about the spacer because I wouldn't want to have to order from across the border for a $3 part.
 
Also, your production and my production have some differences. For example any of the CZ Custom Shadows besides SP-01 Shadow, SP-01 Shadow Canadian Edition, etc. aren't legal. So I'm going to be carefully asking the IPSC HQ up here for a ruling on certain parts when I get a Shadow and tune it up.

We have no borders anymore, just move south

[not that bryan]

Its ok. I was only wondering about the spacer because I wouldn't want to have to order from across the border for a $3 part.

Also, your production and my production have some differences. For example any of the CZ Custom Shadows besides SP-01 Shadow, SP-01 Shadow Canadian Edition, etc. aren't legal. So I'm going to be carefully asking the IPSC HQ up here for a ruling on certain parts when I get a Shadow and tune it up.

USPSA production is largely more lenient on internal modification and non OEM parts than IPSC production. I haven't shot an IPSC match and have no plans to so double check those rules.

[Alma]

IPSC rules
16. Original parts and components offered by the OFM as standard equipment, or as an option, for a specific model handgun on the IPSC approved handgun list are permitted, subject to the following:
16.1 Modifications to them, other than minor detailing (the removal of burrs and/or adjustments unavoidably required in order to fit replacement OFM parts or components), are prohibited. Other prohibited modifications include those which facilitate faster reloading (e.g. flared, enlarged and/or add-on magwells, etc.), changing the original color and/or finish of a handgun, and/or adding stripes or other embellishments.
17. Aftermarket parts, components and accessories are prohibited, except as follows:
17.1 Aftermarket magazines are permitted, subject to 16.2 above.
17.2 Aftermarket open sights (see Rule 5.1.3.1) are permitted, provided their installation and/or adjustment requires no alteration to the handgun.
17.3 Aftermarket grip panels which match the profile and contours of the OFM standard or optional grip panels for the approved handgun and/or the application of tape on grips (see Appendix E3) are permitted.
However, rubber sleeves are prohibited.

[ZachJ]

By my understanding, I believe the only part I can legally change that could affect the gun's performance such as trigger,setting off primers, etc. would be the hammer for one of CZCustom/CZUBs comp. hammers. And an ext. firing pin from CZCustom/CZUB.. but I just won't tell anybody I got mine from CGW.

[ZachJ]

Would rounding the bottom back of the slide-the part that first contacts the hammer when the slide cycles backwards for whatever reason-such as in atlas' post be IPSC legal and fall under minor detail work? Or is that a huge change?

[Alma]

I would call that internal and think it would be fine but have no idea how IPSC would rule it.

[Matt1]

Apart from "removing burrs during fitting" you can't do any mods in IPSC Production. Also, all part have to be OEM, that means no CZ Custom or CGW parts.


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[Twinkie]

I bet they check springs as well, so no clicky pen springs in Tanfos.

[Conspiracy Brother]

We have no borders anymore, just move south

 

"Undocumented parts", they can't bump your to Open or DQ you for that. 

[ZachJ]

Apart from "removing burrs during fitting" you can't do any mods in IPSC Production. Also, all part have to be OEM, that means no CZ Custom or CGW parts.


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Does minor parts polishing count? I mean polish so its smooth, not like a mirror polish type. What about OEM parts that come from CZ Custom? And what's the ruling on different recoil springs/hammer springs?

[LeadChucker]

IPSC sounds as Dumb as Limited

[Matt1]

They mean you can only do the bare minimum to fit the parts. I'm sure there's a heap of guns out there that have had more work done and they'll probably never been caught (I've never heard of a gun being pulled apart at any match here in Oz). The penalty if you do get caught and they decide you've gone too far is a bump to Open.

As long as the parts were made by CZUB they are good to go. Parts made by CZ Custom aren't, even if they are exactly the same.


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[Matt1]

Changing springs is fine but technically they are supposed to be OEM too...


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