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#21 Miculek is a Noob

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Posted 02 June 2016 - 03:36 PM

N320 is dirt cheap here, cheapest powder available is VV, 125USD for 4LBS jugs. 

 

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 10:14 PM

What do you look for in a minor power factor load? (powder)
 
How do you decide what powder to use?  What is your top 3 criteria?  (*assume availability isn't an issue*)


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Posted 26 June 2016 - 04:16 PM

Can't say that I've done any actual looking. I scored a couple 8# jugs of Bullseye when I took up reloading during the height of the powder shortage and haven't seen any reason to change. It's:

  • Not too smoky
  • Meters well
  • Accurate enough

did they change the recipe for Bullseye or what?

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Posted 26 June 2016 - 04:54 PM

In my experience bullseye is considered smokey because it's the powder of choice for old farts shooting cast lead bullets lubed with genuine Lucas wiring harness smoke.
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Posted 26 June 2016 - 07:47 PM

In my experience bullseye is considered smokey because it's the powder of choice for old farts shooting cast lead bullets lubed with genuine Lucas wiring harness smoke.


that may have been my problem

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 08:42 PM

did they change the recipe for Bullseye or what?


I only started reloading about 18 months ago, so I can’t comment on what’s changed in the 100+ years it’s been in production. My ammo doesn’t seem any more or less smokey than the people I shoot with. I’m loading Precision Delta JHPs and SNS coated. Some bullets I’ve tried (once) smoked annoyingly badly.

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 05:41 PM

yeah it was fine with plated when I loaded that but with lead and moly it's a smokefest.

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 07:55 PM

yeah it was fine with plated when I loaded that but with lead and moly it's a smokefest.

Everything is smoky with plain lead bullets, it's the lube. Who cares though, you're supposed to be looking at the front sight.

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 09:29 PM

Bullseye took it to a whole different level. It was like shooting black powder.

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 09:51 PM

I don't shoot minor, but if I did, I'd still use the same powder, Titegroup. It's cheap, accurate, meters better than most but not the best, and isn't dirty or smoky enough that I care when you factor in the cost and accuracy. $17.50 per pound when bought in bulk, and I use 4.2 grains to make major, I assume youd be around 3.5-4 in 9mm.


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Posted 13 July 2016 - 03:06 AM

N320 is dirt cheap here, cheapest powder available is VV, 125USD for 4LBS jugs. 

 

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Posted 13 July 2016 - 07:37 AM

Makes PF

At 134 PF, recoil is not an issue.

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Posted 13 July 2016 - 09:37 AM

Makes PF

At 134 PF, recoil is not an issue.

 

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Posted 13 July 2016 - 09:07 PM

Bullseye took it to a whole different level. It was like shooting black powder.

As in, "choo choo! I'm a fuggin train over here..." levels of smoky, for sure.
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Posted 14 July 2016 - 11:20 AM

My priority #1 when getting into reloading was finding something that would make it really hard for me to turn my gun into a pipe bomb...  I settled on HP-38/Win231.  Love it for 9, love it for .45, and now loading with it for 40...  Still haven't tried anything else.


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Posted 14 July 2016 - 11:49 AM

231 is basically extinct around me, and has been since Obummer got elected. I use Titegroup, works for 9/45, cheap, doesn't smoke too bad. No use wasting time hunting down others.



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Posted 14 July 2016 - 01:17 PM

Back when powder was scarce as hell, I got a notification that some pistol powder had come in and went nuts and bought like 30lbs of N-320. It's expensive as hell, but works great with 124 gr RN. I'm using 4.2 gr at 1.142". I'll probably switch to Titegroup when I run out, which will be in 3-5 years lol.

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Posted 14 July 2016 - 02:12 PM

I look for the word TITEGROUP, usually a 4 or 8 lb denomination as well.

 

The other one may be VV N320 whenever I get to try some next year.


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Posted 21 July 2016 - 11:40 AM

231 is basically extinct around me, and has been since Obummer got elected. I use Titegroup, works for 9/45, cheap, doesn't smoke too bad. No use wasting time hunting down others.

 

 

I'm sitting on like 20# of the stuff..  



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Posted 21 July 2016 - 11:42 AM

That sounds dangerous.

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