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[GuanoLoco]

My load for 135gr Bayou Bullets is 3.7gr ETR-7 @ COAL 1.110"- @ 134- PF.

I just worked up a 124 gr load (ACME 124gr NLG) with ETR-7 for a Stock 2 (4.5" polygonal barrel). COAL without adjusting seating die came out to 1.085"-. I started at 3.8gr and finally hit 134-135 PF at 4.1-4.2 gr of ETR-7.

With the 134's, Extreme Spread was wild at lower powder loads (3.8) but got better as I increased, ending stupid tight at 4.2gr. This powder likes to be burnt hot.

No opportunity to test yet, curious how the 124's at the same PF will measure (e.g. Bill Drill speed/accuracy) and 'feel' relative to 135's in a heavy-ass Stock 2. Also group size - IF I can shoot consistently enough to tell a difference.

 

UPDATE: I can't feel an appreciable difference between 124's and 135's.  The ACME NLG 124's are harder to get the MBF tooned properly for.  Even after a fair amount of fiddling I still get upside down bullets occasionally - and this kills any savings.  The 135's 'just worked' in the MBF regardless of how the 124's were or weren't working with various tweaks.  Sticking with the Bayou 135's.

[StrongHandOnly]

1. N320
2. N320
3. N320

Now STFU and start loading. Jesus H Christ don't complain about the cost.


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[adoo]

VV powders is the cheapest you can get here..  

[3gunDQ]

What is 125 PF??? IDFK???

[Flexmoney]

What is 125 PF??? IDFK???

 

You'd need to understand arithmetic (that's math, btw).  I understand you know how to count.  That's a start.  Keep at it.  You'll get there someday.  If not, you can always move to Norscandia.  

[TRBDN]

What is 125 PF??? IDFK???

 

Is this a weak attempt at a troll?  Did you actually join Doodie without know what PF is?  And no timmy, it is not short for Pistol-Forum!

[TRBDN]

Clean consistent burn, which "should" lead to less some and the gun recoiling consistently. 

 

I had good consistency out of Unique, but it wasn't really clean.  It wasn't horrible and it filled the case enough where 9mm double charges were impossible.  It is serviceable, but not great.

 

I am currently using CFE.  It burns clean and throws consistently in my SDB.  It is made of small grains though, so a double charge is possible without over-filling.  Accuracy and shot to shot consistency is similar to Unique, but with less smoke and a lot less carbon build-up.  The recoil push is sharper, but not enough for me to care.

 

I have some Ramshot Competition I will try after I use up the CFE.  I know the Ramshot will be dirtier, but it is still worth trying.

 

Current load:

 

125 gr RN SNS

4.7 gr CFE

1.090" COAL

Primers, Fed, Win or CCI.  Magnum or regular seem to have no appreciable effect.

[peterthefish]

I doubt you'll find the RS Comp to be dirtier. In fact you'll probably find its substantially cleaner than CFE pushing minor loads.

[GuanoLoco]

What is 125 PF??? IDFK???

Add your boolit weighth in grains unto itself a number of times equivalent to the boolit's velocity in feets per second then round down one tenth of one percent of the result. If the result is less than 125 mystical PF's then proceed immediately to the nearest Steel Challenge or 3Gun match where they careth not for arcane pistol ballistical maths.

[Miculek is a Noob]

Sheesh... let's agree to leave the creative writing essays to Trigger Warning, okay? That was tortuously painful and made me think even less of you than I did before.

[GuanoLoco]

I'll admit to not being in TW's league, but I refuse to give up the ground I have laboriously claimed.

I'm pretty sure TW is a perfessional, whereas I am mostly self-trained from work and writing on the interwebs. Engrish wasn't a strong suit for me in my college days but it got better. Sort of.