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#1 PupTown

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Posted 18 August 2016 - 05:46 PM

Going to buy 4 or 5 steel targets and mount them to 2x4 posts with the carriage bolt and spring setup (probably).

 

What size would you get?  

 

10" steel challenge circles? $35

7x12 mini IPSC torso?  $30

IPSC A-C zone?  $80 (if I use this size I won't buy as many)

something else?

 

Keep in mind smaller is cheaper, and I don't like spending money. 

 

I might do the 2x4 post mounted on a welded "H" based, but this target stand looks nifty.

http://www.arntzenta...lding_stand.htm  

 

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Is there a better target stand for less money ($80)?

 

 

 

How about the one below? Does anyone think this target stand would last?  It's ghetto but would be cheap to make and be portable.

 

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#2 Not Will

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Posted 18 August 2016 - 06:08 PM

I bought some 8" circles and hang them from shepherds hooks from Lowes. 

 

The A/C steel is cool, but its big, heavy, expensive, and I don't think its actually a great training tool.  For the price and the ass-ache, I would just buy poppers.  


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Posted 18 August 2016 - 07:04 PM

For pistol use look at xsteel targets. I have 8, 10, and 12" circles all 1/4" ar500. Not a scratch on them so far from many rounds of 9mm.

Stands can be build from 2x4 and a cut off eye bolt for less than $10 each.
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Posted 18 August 2016 - 07:52 PM

Don't bother with mini-targets or A/C zones.  They work ok as steel but not any better than any other plate and cost more.

 

Full-size USPSA targets are actually worthwhile but heavy as fuck to haul around.


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Posted 18 August 2016 - 08:47 PM

I feel like mini poppers and head boxes would be a lot easier to haul around. All of the pics of stands look flimsy as shit though, a solid heavy base is better than wasting time dicking with equipment IMO.



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Posted 18 August 2016 - 08:58 PM

If I recall correctly from a podcast, Ben said something about plates (6", 8" etc.) being the steel he would get if he was on a budget.

 

I'd probably buy plates if my club didn't have them and then hang them like Not Will suggested so I wouldn't have to reset them for every run.


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Posted 18 August 2016 - 10:11 PM

I went with the 8" Steel Challenge target from MGM: https://mgmtargets.com/steel-challenge

 

Allows me to set it up like poppers, near = large, far = mini, really far = wtf am I doing this hard.  You can have few different 2x4s to match the target zone of the poppers as well.  Its easy to haul out as the 2x4, hanger, and plate fit together and just carry the base in the other hand.  When putting in the truck to take to the range, it fits nicely between the rear and front seats.  Hell, I usually just leave in the truck most of the time.


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Posted 19 August 2016 - 10:09 AM

I bought some 8" circles and hang them from shepherds hooks from Lowes. 

 

The A/C steel is cool, but its big, heavy, expensive, and I don't think its actually a great training tool.  For the price and the ass-ache, I would just buy poppers.  

 

How do those handle fast splits?  Looks like they might flop around. 

 

I went with the 8" Steel Challenge target from MGM: https://mgmtargets.com/steel-challenge

 

Allows me to set it up like poppers, near = large, far = mini, really far = wtf am I doing this hard.  You can have few different 2x4s to match the target zone of the poppers as well.  Its easy to haul out as the 2x4, hanger, and plate fit together and just carry the base in the other hand.  When putting in the truck to take to the range, it fits nicely between the rear and front seats.  Hell, I usually just leave in the truck most of the time.

 

That hanger bracket is nifty, but MGM is overpriced.  The 10" plate system is $160 (base, hanger, 10" pate).  

 

They can't math either.  Individually, they sell the base for $52 and the hanger bracket for $33, which means their 10" diameter, 3/8" thick AR500 plate should be worth $75, which is way overpriced.  (You can buy the same size disc for $35 at a bunch of places online.)



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Posted 19 August 2016 - 10:57 AM

I picked up two of these MGM Auto-popper Colt speed steel.  So far so good, it's handy to not have to reset after each run.

 

I figured it was good training tool to actually be forced to shoot at the calibration zone, instead of hanging one anywhere on a traditional popper.

 

I opted out of the "sniper legs" stand.  I can bolt them to a cheap Harbor Freight sawhorse if I need to elevate them.

 

http://mgmtargets.co...fr4ih5dn5pu8en3



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Posted 19 August 2016 - 11:00 AM

I also have some cheap 8" circles I'm gonna mount on t-posts when I get moved into my new place with backyard range.

 

I intend to line the berm with t-posts and then can swap them out as desired with t-post brackets that slide off/on.  



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Posted 19 August 2016 - 11:26 AM

How do those handle fast splits?  Looks like they might flop around. 

 

 

 

Yeah, they flop around if you are hammering on them, but I don't use them that way. I use them to work on transitions, entry/exit, and to simulate falling plates without resetting. 


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Posted 19 August 2016 - 12:14 PM

The cut eye bolt through the 2x4 eliminates much of the flopping about.

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Posted 19 August 2016 - 07:14 PM

I went with GT Targets.

 

Karl is a great guy to work with.  I have purchased about 20 various pieces of steel from him. 

 

The way his steel hangs on the 2x4 uses a "cap".  There is absolutely nothing exposed to the face of the plate as to do with mounting.  Nothing to get shot or broken.  The 2x4 is disposable.

 

http://gttargets.com...tolTargets.html

 

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#14 ZackJones

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Posted 22 August 2016 - 08:07 AM

+1 for Karl at GT. Great guy and great steel.
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Posted 22 August 2016 - 08:31 AM

After seeing GT prices, I agree that MGM is overpriced.   GT is $65 cheaper for a 10" setup.  


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Posted 22 August 2016 - 08:05 PM

I got 4 10"Rx3/8" circles of ar500 for $130 from my local steel supply place in denver. I love them, but in hindsight I should have bought A-zones. Mine are mounted to 2x4s with grade 8 bolts. With the 2x4 setup, you can slice a metric target from the center outwards, slide the bolt through the cut, and staple the target to the post so your steel is center of A zone. Then you hear your a zone hits, and don't have to tape them. My circles work, but A-zone steel would be better for this.

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Posted 22 August 2016 - 11:01 PM

Here's a few potential options, that you may find worthy of your consideration:

 

https://www.rsrsteel.../022-RSTSF.html

10"W x20"L

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https://www.rsrsteel...69-NONERSF.html

7.5"W x 13.5"L
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https://www.rsrsteel...18-MINIASF.html

6"W x12"L

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 09:11 AM

I have an A/C steel on a stand, it can be useful but is a bit heavy and bulky.  It's particularly nice when practicing and afternoon storms come through and trash all the paper targets.  I also like it for a final distant target in a practice array.  Much nicer to sit under the metal roof in each bay and work on '2 at 25' or some equivalent drill.

 

I have been moving to 2 6", 2 8" steel circles and 1 A-zone for my mobile plate rack.  I use "The Last Stand" https://www.amazon.c...t/dp/B00JVX4JB8rebar target stand and lengths of recycled file hose to support them.  $40 + 3 10' rebar sections cut in half.   You can buy Grade 8 bolts by the lb from Tractor Supply.  No picture handy but here is something from Amazon.

 

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 11:07 AM

I dont think you neighbor will appreciate you shooting at their house.

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 11:22 AM

I use a suppressor and never miss.  It's all good.


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