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#1 Fishyjoe

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Posted 05 March 2017 - 03:31 PM

20% of the field has DQed at the Florida State IDPA championship. From what I'm hearing, there were several stages with dq traps and over the berm muzzle violations. DQ traps are unacceptable, the MD and RD should be held accountable for poor design if this is true. Over the berm muzzle dq is dumb.

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Posted 05 March 2017 - 03:40 PM

Link to results? 


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Posted 05 March 2017 - 04:31 PM

Who cares.
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Posted 05 March 2017 - 04:36 PM

Retards gonna retard.


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#5 Fishyjoe

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Posted 05 March 2017 - 04:46 PM

Link to results?


No practiscore link. Seems it's closed. Same goes for the main IDPA site. Go to the moderated IDPA page on fb there is a couple of long threads.

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Posted 05 March 2017 - 04:54 PM

 the MD and RD should be held accountable for poor design if this is true

 

Amen, we can't have people thinking IDPA officiating is capricious and subject to local rules.  Why, it would bring the organization into disrepute!



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Posted 05 March 2017 - 05:31 PM

IDPA is the most transparent and consistently governed sport; don't know why you guys are always bagging on it.

#8 Fishyjoe

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Posted 05 March 2017 - 05:42 PM

Stage design is done by the md and approved by the Rd. Why shouldn't they be accountable?

As far as the tribal rule of the muzzle/berm, there is a procedure in place to account for them. Apparently they weren't followed. So yeah, the local rules are bringing the the org into disrepute. If you are going to insist the shooters not reload how they normally would, then you need to have that out there so people can train. You are asking the shooter to change their mechanics on the fly and that is unacceptable.

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Posted 05 March 2017 - 06:14 PM

Stage design is done by the md and approved by the Rd. Why shouldn't they be accountable?

As far as the tribal rule of the muzzle/berm, there is a procedure in place to account for them. Apparently they weren't followed. So yeah, the local rules are bringing the the org into disrepute. If you are going to insist the shooters not reload how they normally would, then you need to have that out there so people can train. You are asking the shooter to change their mechanics on the fly and that is unacceptable.


I'm sorry but reloading with you gun pointed over the berm could send rounds towards friendlies in defensive situations. This shouldn't be a "tribal" rule issue - it should be the norm in a sport that closely mimics defensive shooting situations and holds shooters accountable for every round.

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Posted 05 March 2017 - 06:22 PM

What kind of cookies did they have?


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Posted 05 March 2017 - 06:35 PM

I'm sorry but reloading with you gun pointed over the berm could send rounds towards friendlies in defensive situations. This shouldn't be a "tribal" rule issue - it should be the norm in a sport that closely mimics defensive shooting situations and holds shooters accountable for every round.

 

If they were closely mimicking defensive shooting situations, they wouldn't even acknowledge the berm's existence.  Or is there something I don't know about giant dirt piles beginning to appear in food courts nationwide? 


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Posted 05 March 2017 - 06:58 PM

Why is there a idpa section on this forum.
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Posted 05 March 2017 - 07:02 PM

Why is there a idpa section on this forum.


Because it's fun going to idpa matches and crush balls. More importantly it's fun to bag on them.

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Posted 05 March 2017 - 07:02 PM

So it's like gay bashing?
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#15 Fishyjoe

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Posted 05 March 2017 - 07:32 PM

I'm sorry but reloading with you gun pointed over the berm could send rounds towards friendlies in defensive situations. This shouldn't be a "tribal" rule issue - it should be the norm in a sport that closely mimics defensive shooting situations and holds shooters accountable for every round.


So revolver should dq on every reload?

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Posted 05 March 2017 - 08:01 PM

So it's like gay bashing?


No I don't think so, nobody is born a idpa shooter.
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Posted 05 March 2017 - 08:12 PM

If they were closely mimicking defensive shooting situations, they wouldn't even acknowledge the berm's existence.  Or is there something I don't know about giant dirt piles beginning to appear in food courts nationwide? 

 

You were trolled

 

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Posted 05 March 2017 - 09:27 PM

So revolver should dq on every reload?

 

No.  Revolver should DQ on principle alone before the match even starts.


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Posted 06 March 2017 - 09:28 AM

yep, and they gave out over 500 procedural calls as well. so much for fault lines....

 

there were no dq traps there. there were three seated draws. don't sweep your leg moron. problem solved.

 

there were multiple door and prop manipulations. don't point the gun at your other hand dummy. problem solved.

 

the dq's are a shooter problem pure and simple.

 

the pe calls are the result of using the same so-so SO's and doing fault lines wrong.


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Posted 06 March 2017 - 10:29 AM

Seated draws - whatever... mostly blame the shooter but I thought sweeping your leg was allowed now.  It is virtually unavoidable with many IDPA holsters.

 

Prop manipulations - on the shooter.

 

POINTING the muzzle over the berm DQs with no round fired during a reload?  I don't know if they did, but they need to publish that shit in the match book so people can avoid the match.

 

Some folks were looking at starting up a USPSA club at a range near Charlotte, and during the process it came out that this was a "club rule" there too.  I think they went back and forth for a bit, but after a while, they decided no USPSA there.  That is the right decision.  No reason to get involved with a club that has that level of douche rocketry going on up front.  It is never going to get any better after you get started.


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