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#21 Trigger Warning

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 07:38 PM

I know it can’t be used in arbitration but the video definitely proves that production is dumb.
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Posted 07 October 2017 - 07:53 PM

Just on attitude alone

 

Who were the ROs on Stage 6 ? They should be banned from working  anything above a level 1 forever.

 Just going on attitude alone I would guess the CRO was the former member, now banned "JAY"



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Posted 07 October 2017 - 07:54 PM

Why couldn't the R/O review the timer?  8 shot array and he fired 11 shots.



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Posted 07 October 2017 - 08:13 PM

Why couldn't the R/O review the timer?  8 shot array and he fired 11 shots.

I don't believe you can review the timer for the number of shots, as you only need to pick up the last one for the time.  It doesn't matter here anyway because the dumbdicks knew he ran dry before he ever engaged that last popper, because reasons, and that's all they needed to give him the procedural.



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Posted 07 October 2017 - 08:40 PM

RO fucked and popper fucked; which is worse.
Maybe it really is time to scrap all those pesky poppers and just have plates.

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 10:37 PM

And the A$$hat that brought it up didn’t have the timer or the tablet. Was he just another shooter?
The RO at first said he was ok.

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 06:36 AM

What a fucking relief... We were in need of a new controversy big time.

Bonus points that it involves a Popper

Extra Bonus points it is a popper AND an RO
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Posted 08 October 2017 - 07:11 AM

Why couldn't the R/O review the timer?  8 shot array and he fired 11 shots.

cuz he got a plus 2 also .. :lol:


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Posted 08 October 2017 - 07:24 AM

What a fucking relief... We were in need of a new controversy big time.
Bonus points that it involves a Popper
Extra Bonus points it is a popper AND an RO

It's drama and head shaking.

It's only controversy if someone is fucking stupid enough to agree with the RO's call.

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 07:38 AM

It's drama and head shaking.
It's only controversy if someone is fucking stupid enough to agree with the RO's call.
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The two RO’s agreed!

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 07:47 AM

Change " RO's " to " ROs' ", no controversy.
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Posted 08 October 2017 - 08:43 AM

It's drama and head shaking.

It's only controversy if someone is fucking stupid enough to agree with the RO's call.

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I’m honored to be called to weigh in on this. Unfortunately... I already did.... because I am the RO in question. And my ruling stands.
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Posted 08 October 2017 - 09:21 AM

I’m honored to be called to weigh in on this. Unfortunately... I already did.... because I am the RO in question. And my ruling stands.


Bullshit.
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Posted 08 October 2017 - 09:28 AM

Who else could it be. A moronic RO who defies logic and spouts nonsense. look in your hearts you know that it has to be me.


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Posted 08 October 2017 - 09:28 AM

Total bullshit call by the way.


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Posted 08 October 2017 - 06:57 PM

bullshit.jpg

 

God damn it, even if you are the RO standing over the shoulder and looking down his sights, watching tracers and impacts in the berm, you can't call FTE when he fires more shots at the array than there are steel in the array.


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Posted 08 October 2017 - 08:01 PM

What if he squeezed all his thrusts at only one pooper?
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Posted 08 October 2017 - 08:32 PM

He can't make the call becasuse he's an idiot. Y'know, Paul Hendrix was an ass in our sport and complaints about him pretty much went nowhere. He was a bully, a prick, a cheat; ultimately found out thanks to video review. Was PVH's behavior condoned? Sure...well, not the cheating part. But for being a dick and a hothead.

This RO here appears cut from a similiar mold. Interjecting himself into the sport, why? What's he get out of tagging on a FTE to guy that's maybe B class? IDK. Just like IDK what jolly PVH got out of +1 here, or +2 there. Maybe it's he just liked the power and control.

Hmmm... Power and Control. Seemed on dispaly here.

And it's condoned by USPSA. Yes CONDONED. Because to condone some you either accept it or allow it. This RO, and everyone like him, and extreme cases like PVH who were outed becasue of video hide behind "no video for arbitration." So they do what they want, we saw it here.

Seems like something real easy to fix.
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 02:24 AM

Of course this is not the first or last time this has and will happen. Hell I had exactly the same thing happen to me at an Area match. The vast majority of ROs are doing a good job and are in it to help out. There are a few on a power trip that the NROI doesn't exactly endorse but makes possible because of their culture of sticking together and never criticizing each other (at least at the senior levels), kinda the thin yellow line.

 

This poor guy already had one FTE on a previous target so his score was fucked anyway. You have to be a pretty depraved RO to pile on extra unearned penalties. That guy needs his credentials pulled, won't happen but maybe if this video gets enough attention shooters will make sure to record him at any major event.


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Posted 09 October 2017 - 05:12 AM

I can't be 100% sure, but I'm 95% that the old douche with the hat on is the same guy that DQd a friend of mine a few years back at IPSC nationals.  He called a 180 violation that wasn't, and everyone present told the RM that when he arrived.  The asshole RO dug in his heels and demonstrated a similar attitude, including the condescension and the language. 

 

I can't find his name right now, but I think he's a CRO from out west.  He seems to be one of those "professionals" that travels to work majors, as I have seen him at several on the east coast.  Post his name if you know it.  I'm willing to bet that there are plenty of similar incidents involving this guy; if so, let's try to make sure he doesn't supervise a stage or a match again.

 

Also, could the other ROs have been any weaker or less decisive?  The dude with the timer seemed like he didn't have any knowledge of what actually occurred.  It's a good thing that the "expert" was there to suggest the needed answers.  Glad to know that we have staff this capable running nationals. 


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