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#21 GooldMember

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 01:46 PM

I would love to shoot that stage, but I would have it changed to Fixed time with an extremely long par time (say, 30 seconds). That would make for a very interesting Olympic style challenge. The penalties wouldn't count against you but all but the very slowest would be able to shoot all of the required rounds. 

 

Also, secret squirrel technique for doing "how-many-points-is-this-stage-worth" math: if the targets are best 2 per paper, then it is just # of targets X10, plus the steel. 


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Posted 14 November 2017 - 03:55 PM

 

 

Also, secret squirrel technique for doing "how-many-points-is-this-stage-worth" math: if the targets are best 2 per paper, then it is just # of targets X10, plus the steel. 

 

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 04:17 PM

Can you be offended on my behalf?

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 08:12 PM

What is PCC port arms for the PCC starting position ?  But it is a cool rifle stage.


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Posted 15 November 2017 - 06:55 AM

Your Google-fu is weak.

https://www.merriam-...onary/port arms
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Posted 15 November 2017 - 04:36 PM

Two strings, two mandatory reloads, 40 yards to walk to reset? I wonder if they were still shooting at sundown



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Posted 16 November 2017 - 08:45 PM

Your comprehension was lacking. I asked about "PCC Port Arms." Holding a PCC at the traditional Port Arms (diagonally across the body) would have the muzzle on, or breaking, the 180 line.

 

Review of the NROI PCC best practices answered my question: 

"Default/normal start position: Facing downrange, carbine held in both hands, stock on belt or shouldered, muzzle downrange. Fingers will be out of the trigger guard, and the safety must be applied if the carbine is loaded. This equates to either “port arms” or “low ready”. NO uprange starts while holding the carbine!"

 

So it seems that carbine held in both hands, stock on belt and muzzle downrange is PCC Port Arms. (at least using the former - latter construct)


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 09:32 PM

I can't help it if people want to willy nilly change standing definitions to fit their own narrative.

Port arms is port arms. It existed long before HQ thought it was a good idea to put rifles in a pistol match.
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Posted 19 November 2017 - 09:07 AM

More information about PCC starting positions.

 

http://www.multibrie...start111617.pdf


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Posted 29 November 2017 - 08:59 AM

Move back 20 yds from the position you shot strong hand to shoot weak hand Virginia count? Dumb. Turtle targets are dumb too. Classic my ass.

 

This is a great example of the downside to putting rifles in a pistol match. No matter what they say eventually some stage designs will warp towards rifle friendly. PCC local and for fun ok, allow them in anything bigger and this will happen. 


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Posted 11 December 2017 - 07:53 PM

When more than half zero the stage and guys like jay hirshberg and manny Bragg are shooting less than 1 hit factor something is a bit off.

If you want to do a really tough stage that 'separates the men from the boys' make it a short stage so that it doesn't totally fuck the balance of the match.

If it's 60 points out of a 1,000 point match? Not a big deal. 120 points is a lot to burn on a challenge most shooters clearly aren't up to.

Or remove the Virginia count aspect so scrubs can just burn ammo at it.
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