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#61 Ben

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 10:16 AM

One step closer to the unification of Limited and Production.
Ben's troll post will one day be truth.


100% not joking, I am pretty sure the guys running USPSA would like it if we got rid of PF.



#62 Woodieproject

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 11:34 AM

I'm too dumb to understand what's so magical about major PF that it deserves better points for shitty hits and near misses. Which is why I am missing a point of keeping the PF scoring in a form that's currently implemented. 


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 12:55 PM

I'm too dumb to understand what's so magical about major PF that it deserves better points for shitty hits and near misses. Which is why I am missing a point of keeping the PF scoring in a form that's currently implemented.


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 01:05 PM

Its a juggling act. Try to keep the gun manufacturers (sponsors) happy. Reloading industry  happy  concerning PF. Ect ect ect. The actual members come in third. However without sponsors there is no USPSA. Without members there is no USPSA. Juggle juggle juggle. Keep everyone happy. I would hate to be the boss. Its a no win situation.



#65 Just Some Random Hoser

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 01:45 PM

I'm still shooting a stock gun aside from Dawsons. Reading the internet you'd think I'm the last person alive shooting a legal gun, but I know it's not true.


Mines bare bones stock and legal too, for a CZ Shadow Target that is....

#66 Just Some Random Hoser

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 01:48 PM

Lots of factory 115 gr ammo doesn't make minor power factor any more.

So how are they going to calibrate those pesky poppers if they don’t use ammo chronoed ammo to that really low PF?
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Posted 18 February 2018 - 01:49 PM

Just drop Major to 140 and let it in any division and caliber. Problem solved. Nobody left shooting Minor. Run and gun is still fun instead of boring old stand-and-squirt. Lots less popper fucking. Lim shooters will whine a bit about their 'investment', but will get over it when mags are capped at 20. Single-Stacks can be moved to Lim10SSProd with .45 SS shooters using 10-round mags under the Special Geezer exemption.

Chrono can be replaced by the RO "Ehh... I can't tell it's not major" policy to save on complicated equipment, specialized knowledge and math.

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#68 Just Some Random Hoser

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 01:51 PM

One step closer to the unification of Limited and Production.
Ben's troll post will one day be truth.


Is Ben the real Darth Vader....killed everything in his path???

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 01:59 PM

I'm too dumb to understand what's so magical about major PF that it deserves better points for shitty hits and near misses. Which is why I am missing a point of keeping the PF scoring in a form that's currently implemented. 

 

There's nothing magical about it, however it does make different divisions feel even different in how you need to approach them, and thus it's a good thing. Blanket scoring sounds boring.



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Posted 18 February 2018 - 02:25 PM

If they get rid of major what the fuck is the point of having 200lbs of .40 brass???  and a gun that shoots it?


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#71 MemphisMechanic

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 02:32 PM

The actual members come in third.

The membership is the reason they’ll never drop major scoring.

Way over half their life and multi-year members probably own a custom built Limited gun in .40

And those are the guys serving as MDs, and who actually mail in their ballots on USPSA elections.
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Posted 18 February 2018 - 03:19 PM

One day on and the powerfactor elimination troll has been shared 23 times on facebook and has been heavily commented on over on Instagram. Something has really shifted in USPSA that the members actually think something like this is plausible. 


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 03:37 PM

One day on and the powerfactor elimination troll has been shared 23 times on facebook and has been heavily commented on over on Instagram. Something has really shifted in USPSA that the members actually think something like this is plausible.


1. People are stupid

2. The leadership is just that fucking retarded

And we are talking about the same people that put rifles in a pistol competition... so anything is possible at this point.
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Posted 18 February 2018 - 04:22 PM

I’m waiting for lim dot minor.

 

Red dot revo will be the next big thing. Remember where You Heard it first.


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#75 Woodieproject

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 05:50 PM

DVC

 

STD is the only three letter abbreviation that I understand.

 

 

There's nothing magical about it, however it does make different divisions feel even different in how you need to approach them, and thus it's a good thing. Blanket scoring sounds boring.

 

I am all for a diversity and spices of life. However comma if major PF is such a wrist wrencher bone breaker hammer of Thor that controlling it well deserves an additional reward, how about rewarding just that, controlling it well? As in give extra scoring points for A hits, not A misses.


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 07:44 PM

If they get rid of major what the fuck is the point of having 200lbs of .40 brass??? and a gun that shoots it?

I agree. It is critical that Limited shooters keep shooting .40. They are the primary market for that brass.
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Posted 18 February 2018 - 07:46 PM

 As in give extra scoring points for A hits, not A misses.

Because that is a terrible idea and makes stages worth different amounts of points for different divisions. "Well this is a 24 round, 120 point (Production, CO, PCC) or 144 point (Limited, Revo, L10, SS, Open) stage."



#78 Woodieproject

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 08:00 PM

All it will do is to make minor PF shooters unable to contend for an overall win. Guess what, current major - minor PF scoring all but assures that anyway. Considering the compromises, rewarding good hits makes more sense than the alternative.
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#79 beerbaron

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 10:36 PM

I can easily see these things happening in uspsa:

Rimfire divisions
140s in prod
No more major pf and reduce the minor threshold too.

One day complicated hitfactor scoring will be replaced with hootfactor. At the end of each stage the ro will guess how much fun you had. That's your score.

Think of all the new members you cunts.
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#80 BenB

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Posted 19 February 2018 - 12:04 AM

Something has really shifted in USPSA that the members actually think something like this is plausible. 

 

This is a really interesting point and it probably deserves some scrutiny as to why.


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