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#41 ZombieTactics

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 05:43 PM

Uh if you train at all you are going to have training scars. The alternative is to just be terrible forever. 

 

True ... or really good at the wrong things, lol. 



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Posted 21 November 2013 - 06:17 PM

Regarding Vickers and Hackathorn, I think we are simply going to have to agree to disagree. I don't see how your case is one demonstrating "making fun of" anyone, but rather outlining an apt critique based upon his own observations. Did he actually say "all people shooting all gun games are somehow learning training scars and thats bad, and since IDPA and IPSC dont shoot to Ken and Larry's rules and wishes, competition is bad and come shoot in a Hack class to compete with people without all that gamer stuff", or is that your inference based upon something far less direct? It also seems to fly in the face of Vickers very publicly teaming up with Rob Leatham to team-teach. 

I've observed all sorts of silliness by competition shooters in classes and FoF exercises (and a gun store incident in Tennessee involving a timer, which was truly priceless) myself.

Is noting that simple fact "making fun" of them?

No, it's simply pointing out that there is possibly something more to this "training scar" thing than some might like to admit. I don't claim it affects everyone, or even has to affect anyone at all. And, it certainly does not imply that competition is stupid, worthless or a waste of time. So, let's not pretend otherwise. Nonetheless, it happens, and with enough regularity even in my own limited experience to rationally conclude that it isn't exactly rare. 

 

 

 

No, the reason I say that is because whether they mean to or not, that's exactly the message they send to people they train, because that's is what people they train have said TO ME, and cited them as a source as to how they came to certain conclusions on competition shooting.


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Posted 21 November 2013 - 07:03 PM

No, the reason I say that is because whether they mean to or not, that's exactly the message they send to people they train, because that's is what people they train have said TO ME, and cited them as a source as to how they came to certain conclusions on competition shooting.

 

Which would be a secondhand source, filtered through a secondhand set of assumptions and prejudices. You'd be amazed what people tell me that I've said on my YouTube channel.   :huh:



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Posted 21 November 2013 - 07:08 PM

Which would be a secondhand source, filtered through a secondhand set of assumptions and prejudices. You'd be amazed what people tell me that I've said on my YouTube channel.   :huh:

 

Coming from a guy with zero firsthand knowledge of anything, that's funny.


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Posted 21 November 2013 - 07:09 PM

Uh if you train at all you are going to have training scars. The alternative is to just be terrible forever. 

 

Bravo



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Posted 21 November 2013 - 08:05 PM

Which would be a secondhand source, filtered through a secondhand set of assumptions and prejudices. You'd be amazed what people tell me that I've said on my YouTube channel. :huh:


Negative. My main source for this crap is a VSM instructor with like 24 separate Vickers classes he's attended. This guy dosent seem to have an original thought about training that differs in anyway from what he's been taught by Larry. He passes on info from the horses mouth and when questioned, uses Larry's resume as the only reason he needs.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 08:42 PM

Coming from a guy with zero firsthand knowledge of anything, that's funny.

 

Bizarre, almost functionally illiterate comment. Plenty of assumptions going on as well. About par for this forum, so I'm giving a troll-worthy thumbs-up!



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Posted 21 November 2013 - 08:48 PM

Bizarre, almost functionally illiterate comment. Plenty of assumptions going on as well. About part for this forum, so I'm giving a troll-worthy thumbs-up!

 

I lol'ed at the sentence fragment about functional illiteracy, followed by the failure to understand that "par" and "part" aren't interchangeable.


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Posted 21 November 2013 - 09:03 PM

Bizarre, almost functionally illiterate comment. Plenty of assumptions going on as well. About part for this forum, so I'm giving a troll-worthy thumbs-up!

 

 

I lol'ed at the sentence fragment about functional illiteracy, followed by the failure to understand that "par" and "part" aren't interchangeable.

 

Fucking Dr. YVG owned Dr. ZombieTactics on this one. It's like watching the Lincoln - Douglas debates firsthand.


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Posted 21 November 2013 - 10:04 PM

Is it okay to ULSC if the bad guys brains are spread out all over your living room floor and he doesn't even have a toe twitching? Once you've pied and cleared all the other rooms of course.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 10:18 PM

Bizarre, almost functionally illiterate comment. Plenty of assumptions going on as well. About part for this forum, so I'm giving a troll-worthy thumbs-up!

 

What in the actual fuck?

 

Give me a single, original, zombie tactic that you have created.

 

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 10:40 PM

Is it okay to ULSC if the bad guys brains are spread out all over your living room floor and he doesn't even have a toe twitching? Once you've pied and cleared all the other rooms of course.

 

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:16 PM

Is it okay to ULSC if the bad guys brains are spread out all over your living room floor and he doesn't even have a toe twitching? Once you've pied and cleared all the other rooms of course.


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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:23 PM

SUBQUESTION: Can you tell me what 'Chest 1' is?


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Posted 22 November 2013 - 10:12 AM

Fucking Dr. YVG owned Dr. ZombieTactics on this one. It's like watching the Lincoln - Douglas debates firsthand.

 

Well, there's always a crowd at professional wrestling matches cheering for one guy or the other. 
 

 

What in the actual fuck?

 

Give me a single, original, zombie tactic that you have created.

 

SUBQUESTION:  Can you tell me what 'Chest 1' is?

I am honestly beginning to suspect lead poisoning. There isn't a better explanation I can think of. It's like watching "Idiocracy" occur in real-time. Check your fridge, I think you're probably low on Brawndo.


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#56 ZombieTactics

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 10:20 AM

I lol'ed at the sentence fragment about functional illiteracy, followed by the failure to understand that "par" and "part" aren't interchangeable.

 

That IS funny, but it's also an easily-fixed misspelling, rather than your assumed "failure to understand".  



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Posted 22 November 2013 - 10:27 AM

Here's some lead poisoning

 



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Posted 22 November 2013 - 12:27 PM

Well, there's always a crowd at professional wrestling matches cheering for one guy or the other. 
 

 
 

I am honestly beginning to suspect lead poisoning. There isn't a better explanation I can think of. It's like watching "Idiocracy" occur in real-time. Check your fridge, I think you're probably low on Brawndo.

 

I like money.

 

Fortunately, Brawdo is not the only available source of electrolytes.


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#59 ZombieTactics

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 01:32 PM

Here's some lead poisoning

 

 

Meh ... not my best work ... mildly embarrassing in some places.  :rolleyes:  Some of it is just plain wrong, or my opinions have changed. 

There's a lot I'd change if doing the same video today. It's probably time for an update.



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Posted 22 November 2013 - 02:41 PM

I'm not even gonna watch that on account of you somehow stumbled on a Ruger automatic and didnt automatically bury it.


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